{"id":1047,"date":"2024-07-25T18:13:41","date_gmt":"2024-07-25T21:13:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/?p=1047"},"modified":"2024-07-25T18:13:41","modified_gmt":"2024-07-25T21:13:41","slug":"23ai-orapwd-and-the-format-value","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/23ai-orapwd-and-the-format-value\/","title":{"rendered":"23ai, orapwd and the format value"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Recently I was playing with 23ai at ExaCC and got a strange error reporting format mismatch for the password file for my standby. Digging over it I saw that the orapwd has a different default value than dbca.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">First, check below my database created with dbca (the same process that I described <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/23ai-dbca-cloud-and-tde\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in the previous post<\/a>):<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ sqlplus \/ as sysdba\r\n \r\nSQL*Plus: Release 23.0.0.0.0 - Production on Tue Jul 23 16:32:29 2024\r\nVersion 23.4.0.24.05\r\n \r\nCopyright (c) 1982, 2024, Oracle.  All rights reserved.\r\n \r\n \r\nConnected to:\r\nOracle Database 23ai EE Extreme Perf Release 23.0.0.0.0 - Production\r\nVersion 23.4.0.24.05\r\n \r\nSQL&gt; col file_name format a80\r\nSQL&gt; set linesize 255\r\nSQL&gt; select * from V$PASSWORDFILE_INFO;\r\n \r\nFILE_NAME                                                                        FORMAT IS_AS IS_EX     CON_ID\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ ----- ----- ----------\r\n+DATAC5\/ORCL23A\/PASSWORD\/pwdorcl23a.1071.1172152403                              12     TRUE  FALSE          0\r\n \r\nSQL&gt; exit\r\nDisconnected from Oracle Database 23ai EE Extreme Perf Release 23.0.0.0.0 - Production\r\nVersion 23.4.0.24.05\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><!--more Click here to read more...--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">And you can see that if I try to describe this password file, the format is marked as 12:<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ orapwd describe file=+DATAC5\/ORCL23A\/PASSWORD\/pwdorcl23a.1071.1172152403\r\nPassword file Description : format=12\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Even if I copy the file with pwcopy and check it, it continues to have a format value equal to 12:<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">[grid@exxc05db01 ~]$ asmcmd\r\nASMCMD&gt; pwcopy +DATAC5\/ORCL23A\/PASSWORD\/pwdorcl23a.1071.1172152403  \/tmp\/pwdfile23ai\r\ncopying +DATAC5\/ORCL23A\/PASSWORD\/pwdorcl23a.1071.1172152403 -&gt; \/tmp\/pwdfile23ai\r\nASMCMD&gt;\r\nASMCMD&gt; exit\r\n[grid@exxc05db01 ~]$\r\n[grid@exxc05db01 ~]$ logout\r\n[root@exxc05db01 ~]#\r\n[root@exxc05db01 ~]# chown oracle:oinstall \/tmp\/pwdfile23ai\r\n[root@exxc05db01 ~]#\r\n[root@exxc05db01 ~]# su - oracle\r\nLast login: Tue Jul 23 16:40:52 CEST 2024\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ \r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ orapwd describe file=\/tmp\/pwdfile23ai\r\nPassword file Description : format=12\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So, the dbca created the Oracle password with a format equal to 12. No problem with that.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Root cause<\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">But, if I try to create a new password file, or copy one from the filesystem to ASM (as an example), the default value comes as 12.2:<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ orapwd file=\/tmp\/pwdfile23ai-NEW\r\n \r\nEnter password for SYS:\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ orapwd describe file=\/tmp\/pwdfile23ai-NEW\r\nPassword file Description : format=12.2\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">When I copied my password file from primary to standby, and copied (using orapwd) from the filesystem to ASM, the orapwd changed the format from 12 to 12.2 and I got the error:<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">Errors in file \/u01\/app\/oracle\/diag\/rdbms\/orcl23a\/orcl23a1\/trace\/orcl23a1_pr00_159324.trc:\r\nORA-46952: standby database format mismatch for password file '+DATA\/orcl23a\/orapwora23dgp'<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So, be careful because with 23ai the orapwd default value for the format is 12.2, while everything else continues to create as format 12 (even dbca and the pwcopy from ASM). If orapwd creates, or copy it, the format values &nbsp;will change to 12.2:<\/p>\n<pre class=\"EnlighterJSRAW\" data-enlighter-language=\"raw\">[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$ orapwd help=yes\r\nUsage 1: orapwd file=&lt;fname&gt; force={y|n} asm={y|n}\r\n          dbuniquename=&lt;dbname&gt; format={12|12.2}\r\n          delete={y|n} input_file=&lt;input-fname&gt;\r\n          'sys={y | password | external(&lt;sys-external-name&gt;)\r\n                | global(&lt;sys-directory-DN&gt;)}'\r\n \r\nUsage 2: orapwd describe file=&lt;fname&gt;\r\n \r\n  where\r\n    file   - name of password file (required),\r\n    password\r\n           - password for SYS will be prompted\r\n             if not specified at command line.\r\n             Ignored, if input_file is specified,\r\n    force  - whether to overwrite existing file, also clears\r\n             CRS resource if it already has password file\r\n             registered (optional),\r\n    asm    - indicates that the ASM instance password file is to\r\n             be stored in Automatic Storage Management (ASM)\r\n             disk group (optional),\r\n    dbuniquename\r\n           - unique database name used to identify database\r\n             password files residing in ASM diskgroup\r\n             or Exascale Vault.\r\n             Ignored when asm option is specified (optional),\r\n    format - use format=12 for longer identifiers,\r\n             SHA2 Verifiers etc.\r\n             use format=12.2 for 12.2 features like enforcing user\r\n             profile (password limits and password complexity) and\r\n             account status for administrative users.\r\n             If not specified, format=12.2 is default (optional),\r\n    delete - drops a password file. Must specify 'asm',\r\n             'dbuniquename' or 'file'. If 'file' is specified,\r\n             the file must be located on an ASM diskgroup\r\n             or Exascale Vault,\r\n    input_file\r\n          - name of input password file, from where old user\r\n             entries will be migrated (optional),\r\n    sys    - specifies if SYS user is password, externally or\r\n             globally authenticated.\r\n             For external SYS, also specifies external name.\r\n             For global SYS, also specifies directory DN.\r\n             SYS={y | password} specifies if SYS user password needs\r\n             to be changed when used with input_file,\r\n    describe\r\n           - describes the properties of specified password file\r\n             (required).\r\n \r\n \r\n  There must be no spaces around the equal-to (=) character.\r\n[oracle@exxc05db01 ~]$<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/database-evolution.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-894 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/database-evolution-300x296.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"296\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/database-evolution-300x296.png 300w, https:\/\/www.fernandosimon.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/database-evolution.png 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Disclaimer<\/strong>: \u201c<em>The postings on this site are my own and don\u2019t necessarily represent my actual employer positions, strategies, or opinions. 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